I have been a member and follower of Sober 24 for some time now, and realized I have never given them mention or a plug on my site. I also listen to the addiction recovery interviews. From their mission statement: “Sober24 is a not-for-profit outreach mission to benefit people from all walks of life impacted by diseases of addiction and/or compulsion, so that they may enrich their ongoing recovery and build upon their gift of sobriety. All are welcome to Sober 24. The only requirement is a desire to get well and be on a path of recovery. We are not a 12-Step program, nor are we affiliated with one, but we do believe that the path to recovery lies in participation in a 12-step program. We do not intend to be a replacement for attendance at such meetings… I hope Jeff doesn’t mind if I share his recent comments on ‘surrender’, as a recovery component. Moderator, Jeff It really is worthy to note that the “surrender” is more of a process than an event. Yes, that first “surrender” will be to the “substance itself, and even that most often a slowly dawning awareness that each and every time we mess with it the outcome is depressingly familiar. And although we’ll have heard the term “surrender” the discovery of just “how” we’ll go about affecting one, often eludes us for a while, as we “study” on recovery’s way, feeling the discomfort of having removed ourselves from our DOC. The really strange thing seems to be that no matter just how many brain cells we killed off in the exercise of our dis-ease, we never seem to kill off the ones that create the logic that says it’s “O K” for us to just have ————one. Well, maybe two, since we’re already negotiating. If indeed we actually take that drink we‘ve probably spent too long at the bargaining table. If we don’t we’ve learned a bit more about those properties of surrender specifically in regard to our DOC. And yet the really mind-blowing lessons and releases seem to occur when we apply that “principle to “other” aspects of what we understand as our lives. Any area is which we’ve been known to engage in “inappropriate” measures “ of control, “inappropriate” only to mean that which “cause US considerable discomfort, and chaos, will yield to “surrender” given that it’s implemented with that burgeoning knowledge of what those implications actually are. Resistance is ALWAYS what creates our pain, our desires often exceeding their intended purpose. And who doesn’t recognize that mindset that determines that if “one is good. “two” must be better, twenty, super, allowing us to “bank” —-a bunch, “insurance“ of sorts.. And so we’re brought into conflict with ourselves and a host of others who indeed have their own agenda